Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 11, 2012

95 years young, Pat Jones shares some Palomar History

Usually there is a year built for the cabins I have the privilege of listing.  My most recent listing, that little hamlet known as Happy Holler doesn’t give a date.  I asked the owners if they knew when it was built.  They sent me links to two different articles mentioning their property that I’d posted years ago: Reminiscing with Pat Jones   and  Ralph Tillinghast, the Sage of Palomar

The owners of Happy Holler reminded me that Ralph Tillinghast built their cabin.

One of our old-timers, Pat Jones had told me that years ago.  I decided to give Pat a call and we had a delightful conversation.  I asked him about Happy Holler and after a couple of minutes, started typing notes.  I thought some of you might enjoy a little history lesson from Pat Jones:

“I am going to be 95.  I was born the same day the Bolshevik’s took over Russia, and Lake Hodges had taken some of our family property and finished their dam, November 8, 1917.    My mother would say when I was in trouble, “Was it because the Bolshevik’s took over, or that damn dam took some of our land, or you were born?  I don’t know what was worse”.

My wife is a year older.  We go up to Palomar quite often.  I’m still driving and know my way up the mountain.

My grandfather built his cabin on Palomar in 1921. The original cabin is still there.  We added on to it all around. It was not made for winter, it was made for summer.  We had the first indoor toilet on Palomar.    We even beat the Mendenhalls.  My grandfather built the indoor toilet for my Aunt who was a cripple and could not use an outside privy.  It had the water box above the toilet with a pull chain. Of course, we didn’t have water then – no water company on Palomar yet.  So, that was my job to go down to Pedley and get water for that toilet.  We kids would go down to Pedley Valley almost every day.  That was quite a trek.  Of course we didn’t have cars up on the mountain much.  We walked everywhere.

We were instant friends with the Tillinghast family.  They had already finished their first cabin at Happy Hollow – probably in 1920 or earlier.  That little upper cabin used to have only three walls.  The inside was where you stored stuff.  The next wall was where they put snow.  Then they would put a wall of sawdust.  They would get the saw dust from the mill down at Pedley. The roof would come off.  A neighbor would come over with horses, and we would pull the roof back where we would shovel in snow.  That would be their refrigerator.

Mrs. Tillinghast would stay about a month or month and a half in Escondido.  Mrs. T was an extremely good piano player.  We would go down to Baileys and play for dances.  We danced at Bailey’s – Mrs. Tillinghast at the piano, Roy at the coronet, I at the violin.  Those were the good ole days!

In the 1920 and 30s, most of the people who came for the summer on Palomar were from Escondido, Oceanside or La Jolla.  The dads never stayed over the week.  They all had jobs during the week.  They would come up on Friday bringing fresh supplies and go back down Sunday to go to work.  Of course there was no South Grade then.  They rarely came up the West Grade (known as Nate Harrison now).  They would come up the East Grade.  They would be driving Model T Fords and they would run hot.  They would always bring up big milk cans full of water.  They would use it for the car’s radiator.  Then they would fill up the cans on the East Grade from Cedar Creek.  They would bring water up in those milk cans for our cabin.  The East Grade didn’t end up where it does today.  The Grade came up from just above Cedar Creek, through what is now the Birch Hill area, and the road went past where the Lodge is now, and down behind where the water company is, right to our cabin.

One thing is in error with the history of Palomar though is the year they built the Lodge.  It was not there in the early 1930’s.  I think the Lodge was built about 1935.  I think they mix the earlier date up with little store that was to the left of where the Lodge is now.  Up until a few years ago, there were old bed springs and boards from the store.  The store cook there used to cook at San Quintin.  He said he just worked there, but we never knew for sure.  His specialties on Palomar were the same he made at the prison.  One was something like a pot roast.  I know it had beef in it.  He got his meat from Mendenhalls.  He’d go down to the Mendenhall Valley and pick it up. He also made real good macaroni and cheese.  He had a slot machine in there too – a one-armed bandit.

They had horses and a grader and used to grade the roads for us.  Of course, all the roads on Palomar were dirt then. My Granddad built the road by the way, all the way from the Palomar Lodge, past where the Fire Department is now, to the Summit.

My grandparents had a house at 408 East 5th Street in Escondido. That house is still there by the way. Lovely house. My Grandfather had one of the first automobiles in Escondido.  Guess what was in the back seat?  A buffalo hide.

The floor in our cabin is a walnut floor and that was originally the second floor in that 5th Street house when they remodeled it.

Palomar never had any pine trees after about 4000 feet.  Pine trees are not native to Palomar.  They steal the water from the cedars, firs and three kinds of oaks that are native to the mountain.

We were good friends with the sisters who wrote Teepee to Telescope.  Catherine Wood and – what was her sister’s name?  Below their cabin is a cabin that was built by my uncle.  The floor was from a roller skate rink.  It is maple and is about 4 to 6 inches thick.  This was from a portable roller rink.  They would move the roller rink from town to town and put up a tent.  When they got to a new town, they would set it up, sand it, and put varnish on it. My uncle got some of that roller skate flooring when part of one of those rinks burned down.

I used to herd cattle right here where I live now in Rancho Bernardo, at a retirement home called Casa Campinas, looking out to Lake Hodges.

Our family owned Sycamore Creek Ranch.  There were only about 15 families in the entire area of what is now Rancho Bernardo, Poway, the Lusardi family ranch, the family that owned the 4-S Ranch, and all of the Poway Valley.

I remember when the people of San Diego County pleaded with Washington DC to let our local Indians stay on their land and not ship them out.  It was a terrible thing. I know a lot of that history.

Do you know of the play Ramona?  We had an even better play after they built the Felicia Park in Escondido along the creek.  I was in the original Felicita program after they built that park along that creek.  I am the only one alive that was part of the first Felicita Park Program.  My dad furnished the horses. They made him Peco’s lancer.  I would bring those horses across the old bridge (there is now a new one) across Lake Hodges.  Our horses were even scared of an automobile.  I had a horrible time with those horses sometimes.  I had to get the horses unsaddled after the play and get their lariats back on.  I always tried to get back over that bridge before the Pickwick stage went by.  As you probably know, the stage carried the luggage on top, covered by a canvas top.  It would slap in the wind and scare the horses.  I was the only kid in the play and had to wear a Mexican Uniform.  I never got to see the third act because I had to leave to get those horses across that “damn” bridge.

Wish I had some early pictures of Palomar.  I entered the Navy six years before Pearl Harbor.  I had my Palomar album of pictures with me in the Navy.  I lost that album when I was in the Hawaiian Islands.  Always hoped that I’d have it returned.  I know a lot of local history and glad to share it with anyone.  But, if you are talking to me, you have to talk real loud because I’m hard of hearing.”

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It is always a joy to visit with Pat and Lydia.  I highly recommend it!

Bonnie Phelps

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 10, 2012

Dozers, Patchy Smoke, and Fire Update

 

Yesterday I had a little holiday in the city so was away from my phone and computer and caught up on your many messages pretty late.   It was pretty slow coming up the grade late last night as I was following a couple big tractor/trailers with huge track bulldozers with ‘Oversized Load” signs.   I wasn’t complaining since I guessed they were heading out to Warner Springs to work on that Chihuahua Valley Fire.

Lightening was responsable for fires around Palomar.  One was put out pretty fast near Morgan Hill, above the Christian Conference Center and the Doane Valley area.

Click for a North County Times article.  

Just checked NOAA, the National Weather Service and saw this pic for the first time.  They are predicting “Patchy Smoke” on the Mountain today with 86 degrees.  It is totally clear at our place right now.  But, some of us out and about on the might have some smoke from all the efforts of many folks working to get the fire contained on the north side.  THANKS to all!

 

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 6, 2012

Happy Holler’s Four Little Cabins For Sale

The two acres these four little cabins are nestled on have a very unique zoning for Palomar.  This is the only property zoned for ‘1 to 4 units’ in the zip code.  The utilities are in place, and for those looking for a project, you will be very content.  Meanwhile, you can enjoy the cabin as the owners have for decades. More pix soon! Then, let’s go see!

Bonnie-on-the-Mountain

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 6, 2012

Palomar Author’s Book now available!

 From: Mary Camper Titsingh

Book Review:  THE MAN WHO KOW-TOWED  A biographical novel based on the life of Isaac Titsingh, Holland’s eighteenth-Century merchant scholar in Asia.  By Mary Camper-TitsinghIn Asian countries to Kow-Tow was a time-honored ceremony and demonstration of respect before a king an emperor. England’s 18th century ambassador to China, Lord George Macartney, however, refused to kow-tow, to pay his respects by getting down on his knees and placing his forehead on the floor before the Emperor of China. He considered it humiliatingly servile and beneath his dignity.

The Dutch ambassador, Isaac Titsingh, had no problem conforming to this Asian court etiquette. “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” had been a successful practice that had opened valuable trade relations in the Far East and brought him exceptional honors and privileges in all of the Asian countries he visited.

This fictional account of Titsingh’s ventures is filled with historical detail of the Old World’s first complex steps toward globalization. It takes the reader through an amazing trans cultural adventure with the merchant-scholar known throughout Europe as the man who kow-towed.

The author of this novel, the last surviving member of the Titsingh family, is the eldest daughter of Bram and Evelyn Camper-Titsingh who purchased Palomar Ranch on East Grade Road of Palomar Mountain in 1954. Mary began this story of her family history as a labor of love for her granddaughters Meriah and Danielle Druliner. They grew up on Palomar Mountain, the daughters of Bill and Abbey Druliner, who are now the longest full-time residents on Palomar Ranch.

See also https://palomarmountainnews.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/people-of-palomar-camper-titsingh-and-druliner-family/

Read More…

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 6, 2012

People of Palomar – Camper-Titsingh and Druliner Family

From: Mary Camper-Titsingh

OLD-TIMERS ON PALOMAR MOUNTAIN

Dutchman, Bram Camper-Titsingh, and his American wife, Evelyn ended the last years of their long lives on an 86 acre ranch on Palomar Mountain that they bought in 1954.  He had been a tea-planter in Indonesia as a young man and, homeward bound, met and married Evelyn Gore, a student at Stanford University in 1922. They lived the next 20 years in Holland, Rumania, and Germany where Bram was a chemical engineer with the Royal Dutch Shell Petroleum Company.

In August 1939 they and their two daughters, Mary and Dora, were kicked out of Germany as alien foreigners by Adolf Hitler, Germany’s dictator, Luckily for them, since WWII began in September 1939. After a year in Chester, England where German bombs were dropping all around, the family crossed the submarine-infested Atlantic Ocean and was welcomed by Evelyn’s parents in California. Bram was still employed by Shell Oil company in Curacao, Dutch West Indies until his retirement.

During a visit with Dutch friends in Julian, California the couple fell in love with the area and began to look for a home to purchase. Bram felt that the San Diego County mountains reminded him of the forested areas he had loved in his years in Indonesia. After months of visiting homes for sale a very frustrated real estate lady finally showed them a long-deserted 86-acre ranch off East Grade Road on Palomar Mountain. THIS WAS IT! In 1954 they moved all of their belongings acquired in Europe into the four bedroom Main House. It had been built of adobe bricks in 1930 by an admiral stationed in San Diego who wanted a country house and a secure refuge for his family in case of a Japanese attack on California!

The Camper-Titsingh’s two married daughters and the grandchildren came to Palomar Ranch from their homes in Arizona and Oregon nearly every summer vacation and on holiday. The three Druliner grandsons, Bill, Bruce and Cliff kept returning to live at the ranch, first to help their aging grandparents then later between jobs elsewhere. Bill Druliner married Abbey Balin in 1980 and they continue to be the longest full-time residents at Palomar Ranch. Their daughters Meriah and Danielle Druliner are now the Fourth Generation to enjoy and cherish Palomar Ranch.

See also Mary’s book that is available on line.

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 2, 2012

Let’s Keep the State Park $$$ in the State Parks

  Two articles for your reading pleasure:

Friends of Palomar Mountain State Park

Union Tribune’s Park Surplus Tricky Issue

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 1, 2012

Grand Prizes are in – Tickets are Available!

The Labor Day BBQ is coming right up!  The Grand Prizes are confirmed and you can get your tickets now!

Stop in at the Fire Station, Mother’s Kitchen, the General Store, the Observatory,  talk to one of our Firefighters,

or, reply with how many you want, your name and phone, and you will have them filled out for free with stubs waiting for you the day of the BBQ!

Tickets are $5.00 each and stapled in booklets of 5 and 11.

When you buy invest in a pack of 10 for $50, you get one ticket free!  5 Tickets for $25 or 11 tickets for $50

Here are more details on the Grand Prizes:

-4 day cruise to Baja

-$500 to South Coast Winery and Resort

(Special note; the cruise is booked with a traveling agent, so if the people that win that prize to not want to go to Baja, they can use the cruise money to go towards anything they like; a flight, another cruise, hotel stay…etc. They can not redeem it for cash. If they choose the Cruise to Baja, and they want a better room, the up grade will be at their expense. If they stay in the room that it was quoted at, and it doesn’t cost the full $900, then that extra money will be put toward ship spending money, i.e. to buy alcohol, gift shopping, food, or land adventures.)

 

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | August 1, 2012

TV & Excercise Bike For Sale

     

We are spring cleaning and wondering who might get some use out of this excercise bike or TV:

Toshiba Television – 42″ screen (diagonal) This is not a flat screen but it is
very narrow (see picture below.  $175.00
NordicTrack CX 998 Eliptical Exerciser (pictured below).  $275.00

Thanks!  Please call Sharon Bergman at 76o 742-333o

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | July 31, 2012

Upper Meadow Lodge looking for a new Owner

  Many of you have been to one of the lovely Christmas parties at Upper Meadow Lodge.  Such a beautiful place for big gatherings of family and friends.  The Lodge is for sale now and ready and waiting for someone new to enjoy this wonderful getaway.  Would that be YOU or perhaps you could forward this to a friend?  Lots to enjoy at this well-kept secret on Palomar.  Let’s connect for your tour!

 

Posted by: Bonnie Phelps | July 31, 2012

Back on the Market – Bailey Home

Our Winter Wonderland is going to be here before we know it.  The home on this very usable property may be the very best on all of Palomar for year-round access.  It is back on the market as the buyer had a job change.  Take a look and come on up!

https://palomarmountainnews.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/fabulous-four-seasons-at-bailey-home/

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