Palomar Mountain News

Thanks to all who responded to the request for info! about the Ocean View Store and Edgewood Tavern.   Thought many of you would like to see the old photos and links.  Have a great weekend!  Bonnie

Here is more about the Tavern/Lodge

From: Diana Serry

Edgewood Tavern AKA Skyline Lodge, Palomar Mountain Lodge + other names.

Click for UT story Sage of Palomar

“Soon after securing a water supply, community members raised funds to build a clubhouse. Tillinghast provided materials, labor and supervision for construction of the clubhouse, which Beckler’s book described as an evening gathering place for the community. Residents “walked from their cabins with lanterns which they placed about for light. They visited about the big fireplace, or they danced, and they sat out on the porch with its view of all the vast country and cities below.”

Starting in the 1940s, the clubhouse came under a succession of private owners who expanded the building to develop it as a resort, first as the Edgewood Tavern, then the Skyline Lodge, and finally the Palomar Mountain Lodge.”

Click to see Brad Bailey’s book Images of America Palomar Mountain, page 123

Click to read the complete book, ‘Palomar Mountain Past & Present’

http://www.peterbrueggeman.com/palomarhistory/beckler.pdf

From Cliff Kellogg

The Ocean View Store was located where the fire department is now. There is a photo of it at the fire station with a sign “Ocean View Store” clearly visible and a wood structure in the foreground that was the actual store. In the background is a car at a gas pump and a “Shell” gas sign also visible. The caption states that it was replaced in 1936. Apparently it burned around that time and the current house was constructed soon after. I was never sure why they called it the Ocean View Store since you couldn’t see the ocean until the Poomacha Fire burned through in 2007. Now you can clearly see the ocean from the fire department property.

I had Shirley Thompson come down to the fire station a few years ago to meet with an archaeologist who was doing some work for the department. She indicated to us that when her family owned the property with the Bergman’s in the early ’50’s the remnants were still visible. She said the pumps were situated between the side of the house and the side of the existing fire station building. The store was located about where the front of the station is now.

The archaeologist submitted a report for the department that has some good info. The old concrete steps from the store is still on the property, shoved up against some rocks under the oaks in front of the property. A buried concrete structure on the north side of the house in front of the cellar access appears to have been a possible oil changing/car repair pit. An extensive can dump with old bottles and ABC beer cans was excavated. Many relics were collected by the archaeologist and are now stored at the San Diego Archaeological Center on San Pasqual Valley Road.

The Edgewood Tavern is what we know today as the Palomar Mountain Lodge, at the end of Crestline.

It was a renaming of the Reid Wallace Campsites clubhouse on Birch Hill, when the clubhouse was leased out to F. W. Shupe starting in 1927. Shupe added a dining hall and kitchen to the clubhouse. Since then there have been other hands in-between like the Koenigs/Skyline Lodge, etc.

Anthony Swanson is Reid Wallace’s granddaughter as you’ll recall.

Peter

Palomar History Fans

Anthony Swanson – White Bloomers and Land for County Park

From: Peter Brueggeman

Ocean View Camp appears in a photo on age 91, and on the map in Catherine Wood’s 1937 Palomar history book and is mentioned briefly in a San Diego Union travel piece in 1939. There’s no other mentions of it in the San Diego Union or San Diego Tribune from that era. The dearth of newspaper mentions is noteworthy I think, … I bet it didn’t last too many years. I don’t know the Palomar fire history without research into it, but maybe it got burned out (?) I would peg Ocean View Camp as existing at minimum from before Wood’s book was published in 1937, and through 1939. The map is not specific as to its location but it seems right around the firestation there.

Ocean View Camp sold Shell gas and had a store and a campground. Any gas pumping remnants left around the fire station? A tank? The Ocean View Camp store had a peaked roof as you can see in the photo of it on page 91 of Wood’s book. I would guess the group camp there at the junction is what was the campground of the Ocean View Camp. I would guess the fire station is located where the store was. Just guessing.

I’ve long been curious about Ocean View Camp, so let me know if you develop some additional information.

Peter

See also Peter, our Palomar Historian

Back in August of 2005, I opened a webpage as a way to store some road and easement information I’d found in title reports. This was important, because most of our properties up here had physical access only.  We could drive to or from the properties but most properties did not have a “deeded, PLOTTED road” from a public road (Crestline).  I’ve invested many hours over the years pouring over title reports with numerous title companies, surveyors, county employees, attorneys, two judges and PMPO meetings.  This was all an attempt to ‘Cure’ the easement woes on Palomar and give lasting value to the properties. Read More…

Calling all historical buffs and old timers on Palomar!  We need your help!  Do you know where the Edgewood Tavern and Ocean View Store were many decades ago?

We had a very profitable day at the County offices Thursday working on the Palomar Easement Project (PEP).  We now have some newly uncovered road descriptions that reference these two places of business.  It would be very helpful to have them confirmed.

Throwing in my guess, the Ocean View Store might have been where the FD is now?  There was a place of business to the left of the Lodge.  Was that the Tavern?   I’ve been told the flat roofed cabin on Crestline, just past Road 15, was a sandwich shop… who knows for sure?

That was Mike Pique with me at the county offices Thursday.  He just happens to have just about every map known for Palomar in his little iPad.  We’re betting that you subscribers will have this important piece of the puzzle as we work together on this project.

Please comment below.  All help is appreciated!  Thank you!

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Lele Ste is back with her second book!

Many of you know her as our neighbor, Leah Stevens.  She writes under the pen name of her nickname, Lele Stu. When I heard about her latest book and her cause donating her profits to KICKcancER Kits for Kids, we set up an ‘author interview’ this weekend.

Stay tuned for some behind the scenes scoop about this delightful book and meanwhile, check out her press release and help spread the word:The Littlest Daffodil press release

Click to see Leah’s website with more info about her books: The Grafted Shoot

Here is the interview about Leah’s first book, Lunarium:

Palomar Author publishes Lunarium

I know what you’re thinking!  Oh, come on now… the Nanny is not included!

Years ago, neighbors brought their nanny up when they visited the mountain.  This was her private retreat.  What would be YOUR plans for this little cabin?   Click for some pix, info then come on up and take a tour!

Bonnie Phelps

Everyone is invited to all of our Palomar Mountain Planning Organization (PMPO) Meetings.

the PMPO serves as our ‘city council’ for this little mountain.  Come on out and hear about all things Palomar!

Palomar Mountain Planning Organization General Meeting

10:30 AM Saturday November 14^th, 2015

Held at the Palomar Mountain Volunteer Fire Department

All Vets and active Military are invited to visit our State Park at no charge tomorrow on Veterans Day.  Come on up for Fall Colors!

Rick Rick Barclay President ~ Friends of Palomar Mountain State Park

8OO-965-4691   www.friendsofpalomarsp.org